Latest Noob PvP Gear Question

Having started a 3v3 team as well now it looks like I now have 4 arena ratings.

My personal and my team 2v2 rating and now my personal and team 3v3 rating.

So, if there is a rating requirement to purchase a PvP item does just one of these ratings have to meet this requirement? (or at least one set of ratings personal + team)

Arena Week #4

Err, oh dear. After getting my resilience up to 251 I was really hoping we'd be doing better this week.

The arena point total has gone up to 727 after last week and we started off with a rating of 1359.

We lost 8 games. The 2 we won were against a Warrior/Warlock which gave us 16 points and a Warrior/Rogue team which gave us 12 points. A Rogue/Warlock team took a massive 20 points from us and we ended our 10 matches with a rating of 1271. A loss of 88 rating. Ouch!

So having failed in 2v2 I thought I'd give 3v3 a try. I asked in /guild and a couple of mains said they'd be interested with their alts. So HolyWarrior, RogerTheRogue and UselessHuntard ventured into 10 quick matches of 3v3.

We lost 8 matches 3-0, 1 match we killed a priest and 1 match we won. DOH! So my 3v3 team's rating dropped from 1500 to 1376!!

Errr ... More PvP Noobiness

Quick question peeps.

If I were to [theoretically] hit an arena rating of 1575 (which is never going to happen!) I would be able to purchase a Guardians Belt (or whatever!).

The item says "Requires Personal and Team Rating of 1575" (or somesuch).

Scenario/Question: OK so I go out and buy that piece of armour and then I go do my arenas for the week and lose 10-0 and my rating drops to 1425. DOH!!! Can I still wear my sparkling new 1575 rating belt? Was it only the rating required to purchase it or is the rating also required to wear it?

Thanks for helping a PvP nab out :)

Arena Week #3

Now that I have 180 resilience with my 3 pieces of Merciless and 2 Gladiators this week should go better, especially since I have haad a few days to get more resilience gear. Fingers crossed.

After last weeks 4-6 loss we have ramped up to 489 whole arena points and we are starting on a rating of 1383.

Match 1: Hunter/Hunter - WIN - 1397 (+14)
Match 2: Hunter/Hunter - Loss - 1381 (-16) - Different team
Match 3: Hunter/Shaman - Loss - 1369 (-12)
Match 4: Hunter/Shaman - WIN - 1385 (+16) - Different team
Match 5: Lock/Lock - Loss - 1371 (-14) - Ouch
Match 6: Mage/Rogue - Loss - 1356 (-15)
Match 7: Hunter/Pally - WIN - 1369 (+13) - Pally was really crap!
Match 8: Shaman/Shaman - Loss - 1356 (-13)
Match 9: Lock/Mage - Loss - 1341 (-15) OUCH!
Match 10: Mage Drood - WIN - 1359 (+18) Nice :)

Hmmm, not as well as I had hoped, looks like some more progress on my PvP gear is required, more BGs methinks.

Scorecard:
Week 0: 1500
Week 1: 1412 (-78) earned 247 points
Week 2: 1383 (-29) earned 242 points
Week 3: 1359 (-24) estimate 239 points

New Shiny Armour

TiceNits and I are not doing all that well in arenas. Have you noticed? It might have something to do with the fact that TiceNits' hunter has never set foot in a battleground; or thatHolyWarrior has only done enough battlegrounds to get 37K honour on his way to the 40K honour Medallion of the Alliance. Probably both!

As a result, neither have any resilience. TiceNits' hunter (I have gotta think up a name for her) is equipped in quest greens and blues and a few Karazhan epics. HolyWarrior is mostly decked out in T5 quality gear with a few bits of T4 and a few bits of T6 quality gear.

I decided it might be time to get a little resilince. I started off by checking my bank for unused T4 tokens. 3 - Legs, Shoulders and Chest. I want to keep the chest for my Retribution set so I cashed in the legs and the shoulders for season 1 gear.

Gladiators Legguards
Gladiators Pauldrons

That's some resilience, gem slots and a 2-piece set bonus of +35 resilience.

The I looked at season 2 gear. It needs honour and AV/AB marks to purchase.

Merciless Gladiators Chestpiece - 14,500 Honour + 30 Arathi Basin marks.
Merciless Gladiators Handwraps - 10,500 Honour + 20 Alterac Valley marks
Merciless Gladiators Headpiece - 14,500 Honour + 30 Alterac Valley marks

I only had 37K honour, 34 Av marks and 22 AB marks, so I got the Headpiece and was surprised to see that the tooltip changed on the first to pieces to show that the Merciless piece was part of the set. Nice.

I then spent the majority of Sunday in Arathi Basin and Alterac Valley. Arathi was the usual collection of losses with a surprise win for my last match.

A quick trip to the vendor and I had the chestpiece and then I moved into Alterac and got a good collection of wins following the usual tactic of rush Galv, take and defend Iceblood Tower then move onto Tower Point and ensure that doesn't get abandoned. Meanwhile other teams have moved down to Frostwolf and taken the GY, towers and relief hut. By the time the Iceblood and Tower Point teams arrive Drek has either just been engaged or gets downed as you enter his room.

Then it all went to shit, the Horde started defending Galv and the next few games declined into a war of attrition usually taking place on the road from Stonehearth to Stormpike with the Horde winning every time on reinforcements. Gah!!

Finally with only 2 more losses required to get my marks we won another giving me an early exit and my last piece of season 2 - the handwraps. Resilience of 164 and some gems to buy. 4 red, 2 yellow and a meta gem to be exact. What should I gem for? Resilience or Healing? I have dropped a few hundred bonus healing with this set in preference for resilience, intellect and stamina.

So with my honour bank empty and only EOTS marks left it's time to make a PvP shopping list.

First off I looked at the new Guardians Waist Belt thing. This actually has better, stamina, intellect and spell crit at the expense of only +2 bonus healing. This at the cost of 17,850 Honour and 40 Arathi Basin marks. That's probably close on 40 actual Arathi Basin battlegrounds!! But after that I should be well only my way to the honour required.

Then we have a couple of old Vindicators items, the wrist and the feet for 9,199 honour/20 WSG marks and 13,923 Honour/40 EOTS marks.

After that it is the weapon and shield S2 gear (I think) at 25,200 and 15,000 Honour and 20 EOTS marks each.

And once I have finished that off it time to re-grind that 40K honour for the Medallion of the Alliance for Mother Shiraz encounter (or is it Archimonde?)

Update: Adding the Guardians Necklace which is another 15,300 Honour and 10 EOTS marks. Another Update: BRK reckons his Guardians necklace is the best PvE necklace in the game, I may need to bump that up the wish list when I get home and check out if the healing one is any good!

Total Required:
136,472 honour
20 WSG marks
40 Arathi marks
0 Alterac marks
80 EOTS marks

Currently Have:
1,100 Honour
20ish WSG marks
1 Arathi mark
1 Alterac mark
100 EOTS marks

So the plan

1. Grind 8000 honour in Arathi and buy Vindicators wrists.
2. Grind remaining Arathi marks up to 50 (yes 50).
3. Grind up to a total of another 10 WSG badges.
4. Move to Alterac grinding (better honour) and get enough honour for Guardians waist. Or is there a Vindicators Waist?
   
5. Continue grinding Alterac to at least 10 marks.
6. Hand in 10 lots of concerted efforts with 10 marks from each battleground.
7. Get Vindicators Feet.
8. Grind out another 40K honour for season 2 Mace and Shield utilising Concerted Efforts hand ins but ensuring 50 EOTS marks are saved for them and the necklace.
9. Repeat step 8 for the Guardians Necklace.
   
10. Repeat step 8 for Medallion of the Alliance.
11. Breath.
12. Work out what's required for cloak, other trinket, both fingers and libram!
13. Look for upgrades to Vindicator gear.
14. Upgrade season 1 gear
    
15. Give up.
    

Blue rep gear? Screw that! (I suspect at this time I have better anyway) Might be worth a little looksy though.

Enchant and gem-wise

1. Gem up head. Check.
   
2. Grind Revered with SSO for head enchant.
   
3. Gem up shoulders. Check.
4. Investigate shoulder enchants.
5. Gem up chest. Check.
6. Enchant chest.
7. Investigate glove enchants.
8. Get leg armour.
9. When honour grind (1) is complete gem/enchant wrists.
10. When honour grind (4) is complete gem waist ??
11. When honour grind (7) is complete gem/enchant feet ??
12. When honour grind (8) is complete gem/enchant weapon and sheild.
13. When honour grind (12) is complete enchant cloak.
    

Enchants and Gems, I hate to say it but I may need to get to revered with SSO. I've only ever done a few dailies there, so that may take some time, but they have a head enchant that gives +18 stamina and +20 resilience.

So, updates coming for correct names of items, links for mouseovers, running resilience totals etc.

But please, if anyone can give me a pointer as to what gems a healadin should use for PvP I would be very happy.

Arena Week #2

I suspect we actually missed the 1st week of Season 4 as we decided to play our 10 arena matches on a Wednesday so it may be week #3 or even #4. But for us it's week 2.

I am still the arena nub and don't actually know for sure how arena points are calculated, how the +/- rating works or even if it's your last 10 matches or your best 10 matches or whatever that is used to calculate you rating/points for the week. Please can someone explain this?

So anyway. After last weeks 2-8 loss our rating was down to 1412 and we had accrued 247 arena points.

Match 1: Priest/Hunter - loss - 1396(-16)
Match 2: Priest/Hunter - WIN - 1413(+17) - Same team.
Match 3: Mage/Hunter - loss - 1399(-14)
Match 4: Rogue/Mage - loss - 1386(-13) - We took the mage down first just after TiceNits died and left me and the Rogue to duel it out, this took some time but he got me down when he was below 10%.
Match 5: Warlock/Shammy - WIN - 1400(+14) - This was very hectic and no tactics were involved. They both went down together leaving us both standing.
Match 6: Warlock/Hunter - WIN - 1415(+15) - Finally remembered to equip my PvP trinket
Match 7: Hunter/Pally - loss - 1401(-14) - The pally was expert with LoS we just couldn't get him down.
Match 8: Hunter/Priest - loss - 1385(-16) - I died closely followed by the priest, leaving the hunter with the most mana to win - not TiceNits.
Match 9: Rogue/Mage - WIN - 1400(+15) - Same team as match 4. The rogue vanished just before death then I died. TN finished off the rogue then wasted the mage.
Match 10: Warlock/Druid - loss - 1383(-17) - Absolute carnage.

So on aggregate we are down 29 rating points but we did win 4 matches this week and it was much more fun. I really must pick up some arena gear. I'm not sure about the reputation blues but I have some T4 tokens which apparently is now the only way you can buy season 1 gear. I also have lots of battleground marks and a huge stack of honour, that should get me some good stuff!

We Started Arena Season 4 (Week #1)

Now that Arena season 4 has started TiceNits' hunter alt and HolyWarrior have decided it is time to start our Arena career.

We played a few non-rated matches a month or so back but now it is time to dive into the world of rated games.

WARNING/DISCLAIMER: Total Arena Nub post to follow...

Now we don't have the intention of losing 10 quick games a week, but we're fully prepared for that to happen!!

Why? Well by my reckoning and limited knowledge all teams/players have been reset to 1500 so for the first few weeks we could be rated against teams with 2300 rating and full Season 3 gear; whilst HW is in T5 equivalent PvE gear and TiceNits' hunter alt only has a few pieces of Kara gear. This means ... well ... err ... it means we're crap!

Match 1 - Druid/Mage - Lost 1483 (-17)
Match 2 - Mage/Lock - lost 1467 (-16)
Match 3 - Druid/Lock - lost 1452 (-15)
Match 4 - Pally/Hunt - lost 1434 (-18)
Match 5 - Pally/Warr - lost 1419 (-15)
Match 6 - Druid/Lock - lost 1406 (-13)
Match 7 - Priest/Sham - lost 1389 (-17)
Match 8 - Pally/Lock - WON 1407 (+18)
Match 9 - Priest/Sham - lost 1393 (-14)
Match 10 - Mage/Lock - WON 1412 (+19)

LOL - in almost all the losing games we lost very quickly. A couple of them were close and longer fights.

In match 8 we pretty much just burned the pally down, when the lock was actually doing anything I was stunning him or bubbling and healing through. Once the pally went the lock went very quickly.

In Match 10 we were concentrating on the lock but then we lost him, dunno if he died round a corner to the pet when we were feared or what, but we went onto the mage and started burning him down waiting to get ganked by the lock. It didn't happen, the mage died and we got our second win!!

2 WINS!!!

I'm not sure how these point wins/losses are calculated all I can guess is that the higher the rating of the team you beat the higher the points you gain and the higher the points they lose; conversely, the higher the rating the team that beats you, the less points they get and the less points you loss!

So for week 1 we went 2-8 and lost 88 points. Roll on next Wednesday. Any info or advice from arena veterans would be greatly appreciated.

Impromptu PvP

Hehe. I was boosting TiceNits' druid alt through STV tonight and we were just finishing up and going to the rebel camp to hand in quests and all hell broke loose.

Seems 2 rogues , a shammy, mage and a rogue, all level 70 decided to wipe out the alliance NPCs. (RP server here) I sat around watching for a bit and then decided to get involved. I was on EB so I thought "lets have some OP fun". I got a few DOTS off and the 2 rogues anihilated me :)

Finally an alliance hunter, priest, mage and rogue turned up. I managed to kill the shammy before being ganked again and while I was runnig back the others took the advantage of a dead healer and saw them off. No healer. No life expectancy :)

I hung around for a while, the NPCs respawned, the horde stayed away :)

OMFG Battlegrounds

We had national holiday today, so no work ... wee hee.

I spent quite some time in Eye of the Storm and got up to 100 Marks.

I really want the trinket that Horns at Yet Another Warlock Nerf has spotted in 2.4.2 so I am back on the battleground grind.

I started off just doing a couple of battlegounds a day to get to 17K. I had a few marks from each battleground and was up to about 9K honour so I thought. "Hand in 20 Concerted Efforts and I'm done" By the time I acquired 20 Marks in each battleground I had accrued quite some honour so only had to hand in a few to get to 17K.

That's when I read Horn's post above and decided to get THAT trinket. That is why HW is now sat on 100 EotS marks and 30-something thousand honour and a whole wasted day!

So After that I took HolyWarrior around doing the orphan quests to relax - haha - bugged frigging quests! Once I had hearthed out of the Exodar I realised that I had not finished cos I had to talk to the big guy whose ? you could not see. Why? Because I had enough trouble getting the bastard quest to complete and didn't notice that the orphan told me that the dude wanted to speak to me when it finally did. So I had to go back :(

Once completed HW chose the little Elek as his pet. That's another non-combat pet that will go in the bank and never be seen again!

Then I went down the pub for a couple of drinks! Why not?